For onscreen rivals and offscreen pals Catherine Hickland
and Hillary B. Smith, turnabout is fun play at OLTL.
It’s time for the annual Woman of the Year presentation in
Llanview, and, as is customary, disaster will strike the recipient. Remember
Nora’s revelation that she slept with Sam (while married to Bo), and Evangeline
being kidnapped? This time around, Nora presents the award to Lindsay (Can you
say catfight?), and a long-awaited mystery is solved. (Don’t miss the last
minute of Friday’s episode: The su-Spencer is killing us.)
Real-life pals Hillary B. Smith (Nora) and Catherine
Hickland (Lindsay) share the details, on-camera and off.
WEEKLY: How does Nora come to present Lindsay with this
year’s award?
Hillary B. Smith: I walk in and say, ‘I have no idea who’s
going to receive it, because the person who was supposed to receive it got
disqualified at the last minute.’ I find out it’s Lindsay and she finds out I’m
presenting and we have that kind of awkwardness. Take it away, Cat.
Catherine Hickland: What’s really great about it is I’m
terrified of what she’s going to say about me, because when Nora was getting
the Woman of the Year award I basically ruined her life, her marriage and
everything. I blew it all apart. So turnabout is fair play. I’m so honored
because I’ve been the town pariah for so long and now I’m finally going to be
embraced by [all of] Llanview. But deep inside I know there’s something about
me that doesn’t deserve it.
WEEKLY: Nora’s a classy woman. Would she really use a public
forum to get back at Lindsay?
Hickland: Yes.
Smith: No. Nora wouldn’t do that. I throw the index cards up
in the air and say, ‘I’m just going to speak extemporaneously.’ The speech, in my
opinion, will remind people why they loved Nora and Lindsay. And the people who
never knew Nora and Lindsay will become quickly acquainted with their history.
There are a lot of flashbacks, and yet it’s all done very graciously. Things
like, ‘Well, we’ve certainly been down in the dumps together,” and there’s a
flash-cut back to when we were in a Dumpster together, fighting. ‘She sometimes
needles me and gets under my skin,’ and it cuts to her giving me that
mind-erasing drug. It’s a great moment, but absolutely graciousness does
prevail.
Hickland: For a few minutes, until everything goes haywire.
Smith: Well, listen, that wasn’t my doing. If Lindsay would
just behave herself, maybe things would work out.
WEEKLY: I think I know the answer to this, but when you two
work together to you ever crack up?
Hickland: You should ask us how we ever get through a scene.
WEEKLY: Do you ever not crack up?
Smith: There have been times when we understand the drama
that we’re doing and we hold each other’s hand and look in each other’s eyes,
and go, ‘Okay, here we go, I’ll be there if you’re there.’ There has been a lot
of out-and-out horrendous stuff Lindsay has done to me. Nora has done nothing,
of course. We really had to be there for each other and do the trusting.
Hickland: When we’re doing really heavy-duty drama,
especially when one has to say horrendous things or behave in a horrendous way,
the other person needs to support them in the story. Otherwise it can make the
actor look so unattractive. If it’s not required for one of us to be really
showing our raw nerves, we’re always laughing. We laugh on set, we laugh when
we go home. We were roommates for a little while in real life.
Smith: We believe that you have to have one good laugh a
day. If we can walk out of that building having had one good laugh a day, then
everything else is perfect.
WEEKLY: Do you remember when you two knew you would be good
friends?
Smith: I remember the first day you came in. I was such a
raging fan.
Hickland: We were both like that, actually, because I used
to watch her on As the World Turns (as Margo).
Smith: And I watched her on Capitol (as Julie/Jenny).
Hickland: When I came to work on One Life to Live it was
pretty immediate. I’ve fallen in love and I can’t get up.
Smith: There was one moment I’ll never forget. It was the
night when Catherine was sitting there with this mind-erasing drug in a syringe
and she looked at the producers and she [said], ‘Really, my character is
insane. She’s gone crazy at this point,’ and the producer said, ‘No, no,
absolutely not.’ Catherine looked at me and I watched her go insane.
Hickland: I know what my moment was. When Nora was kidnapped
and she was in a coma Hillary used to fall asleep all the time in the scene.
Every now and then she’d do a snore and I’d knock her and she’d wake up. One
time she fell asleep in the middle of the scene and all of a sudden I saw this
marvelous spit bubble. I poked at it with my finger and it woke her up because
it splashed all over her face. There you go. How romantic.
WEEKLY: How have each of you changed?
Smith: Well, there are certain things in both of our lives
that we’ve taught each other. I’ve seen Catherine grow in other ways and I know
the things she’s learned from me. I think Catherine, you would probably say the
same thing.
Hickland: Oh, yeah.
Smith: Actingwise, she taught me a lot about lights and
makeup.
Hickland: Thanks. “About lights and makeup…” What an artist
I am.
Smith: In daytime, knowing about that is artistry. Being
able to do your work, that is artistry.
Hickland: In life, we’ve seen each other through some stuff.
Definitely you saw me through a lot of my personal stuff.
Smith: Vice versa. And you learn. There are a lot of things
that I’ve learned from Catherine that I’ve taken into my personal life and the
way I conduct and handle myself.
Hickland: The truth is, you really don’t know who your
friends are until you need them. That’s the beauty of going through really hard
times in life. That’s when you learn what you have. We love each other so much
and have gotten each other through some very, very tenuous and difficult times,
from death in the family to my marriage ending. This is heavy-duty life stuff
and we have really, really been there for each other. I love her forever for
all of that.
Smith: That’s the beauty of daytime. What daytime
brings you is the chance to create a family. And as dysfunctional as it may seem
on the outside or even in the moment that you’re in it, there are those times,
rare are they may be, that you can connect with someone on such a deep level and
have them be there, because you do see them everyday. You don’t always have your
best foot forward when you’re at work, especially in a soap opera. Also, because
the nature of acting is to open yourself up and be so vulnerable. I have been
raw when I’ve arrived at work and you need to have a safe harbor. Catherine has
been a very big safe harbor for me – you know, just ‘Come here, stay with me.’
The beauty of it was there was always a laugh in it. She always made sure I had
my laugh.